Who has PSE ( any version) and what do you do about the Gamut!??

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Who has PSE ( any version) and what do you do about the Gamut!??

So, I been having a hard time with the Gamut. As you know PSE 10 an now 11 do not have the gamut warning. In fact it's non existant.So we have to wing it with our clors.

I have read many many things already that are super confusing. So i set my color preference for my color management to Always Optimize For Printing. this is what Adobe says about that option " Uses Adobe RGB as the RGB working space; the Grayscale working space is Dot Gain 20%. This option preserves embedded profiles and assigns Adobe RGB when opening untagged files." and btw i still don't know if this is right. i don't normally print my stuff, but when i do its on a small canon printer that only prints 4x6 photo paper, i do print some of my designs for cards on it, the color always seems to matchm, plus i save in png for my graphics.

so that's what i currently have.. so those that have PSE what is your color management preference and how do you work around not being out of the gamut!?? Do you use a Quality Checker action thingy?

For Photoshop Elements you set your colors either by auto correction or use the histogram to set the black and white of the image. Once done edit your image an change as desired.

When ready to print you set the printer first and than set the preferences according to the printer to get the best color print as desired. Canon has great color prints, so you may have to experiment to see if you get the color the way you want. Instead of using photo paper which is expensive, try using card stock. If you can't find any 4x6, than cut it to size if desired.

In Photoshop Elements, go to File > Print, or press Ctrl/Cmd + P. Select your printer, click More Options, and then choose Color Management from the left column, which has three prominent settings:

Color Handling
Printer Profile
Rendering Intent

There are two ways, basically they do the same thing, in pse 10 that I know of:
1. Make your designs>then go to Image>click on convert color profile>then click on remove profile.

2. Make your designs>then click on file>save for web>then push the quality slider all the way up>then save.

I found a video on this here:) Hope this helps, otherwise, I just don't know, I work in pscs5 and can check for gamut and correct it. In Pse there is really no way to check gamut, I just used to use these methods and have someone always check it for me.

okay thanks!

I use PSE, I understand gamut (sort of). Would the colour look wrong if it was out of gamut at 100%? Is this something I should be worried about?

The gamut is the color range that the printer can print, there are only so many colors it will print, sometimes we make something in a color that is out of gamut, out of printer color range, so when you print it out, the printer will pick the closest color to it that is in its color range and the color will look a little different than the color on your screen. People want the color they print out to be as close to if not the same color that we see on the screen. So we try to design with colors that are in gamut (printer color range). Since there is really no way to check to see if the color is out of gamut (color range) in pse, you just have to either get someone with pscs to check it, or just remove the color profile, which is explained in reply #3. The out of range gamut colors are usually the brighter colors, the brighter you go (like neons, kinda), it will most likely be out of gamut, the more dull or lighter colors are usually not out of gamut. At least, this was what I was taught over the years, other than what I just posted, I'm not sure. Maybe someone with color expertise on here will have more info on this topic and can explain it better:)

IMHO, it's virtually impossible to match colors from your own monitor to a printer without expensive color calibration systems. If you send your layouts out to be printed, that's another added matching step. It helps to have the correct printer profile, as Sheila suggested, for whatever printers are being used. You can ask the shop that prints your layouts for a copy of their printer profile, and use that when you prepare your files for printing.
Small divergences from gamut probably aren't going to show up much on your prints, but large areas out-of-gamut will affect the look of the print, and are generally the brighter colors, as Sheila said. You might want to see this article about color spaces: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_space
In Photoshop CS, you can get your file (generally best to do at the end when you have only one layer for a paper or element) to go into gamut by switching to CMYK mode then back to RGB mode. I don't know for sure, but I think Elements allows you to do this. The color space for CMYK is smaller than RGB, so it forces the out-of-gamut bits to conform to in-gamut colors.

This is a topic of utmost interest to me, I've been trying to learn more about this for a long time. I have elements 11 and so far I have never had any trouble with anything printing off color. I would really like to make sure that everything I create is within printing color range, but how do I do that with elements 11? Are there any add-ons or actions for this? So far I think I stay in the basic color ranges so maybe that is why I've been safe up to this point. Also, what about using those free to use color cards that people post on the internet, would they have colors that are within printing range? I know that's a lot of questions, but I figure this is a great place to ask. smiley